Where we stand (on the 2G jailbreak)

Right now, this is where we are.

Unsigned code can be run at iBoot level at the moment, using the arm7_go exploit detailed here. The only issue is that on the iPod Touch 2G, as I have talked about months ago, the bootrom will signature check the first stage bootloader, LLB, which fixes the chain of trust issue that they used to have on the iPhone, iPhone 3G, and iPod Touch 1G.

To clarify, the bootrom is in hardware and cannot be reflashed with a patched one, unlike the NOR. That is why this is harder than it would have been without the bootrom sigcheck.

This is “kind of” a major issue :P But hopefully, dev team can overcome it, and I have been back to reversing as well. Don’t set your hopes on tomorrow or anything, but hopefully it will come soon.

700 Responses to “Where we stand (on the 2G jailbreak)”

  1. -wiseman- says:

    It will still be jailbroken it just wont boot so its unuseable

  2. -wiseman- says:

    Im sorry but I know shit load of people want to jailbreak their ipod touch 2g but Y want the alpha… not the best jailbreak when they are tring to do the FULL JB

    If you want the alpha JB SHUT UP cause if they released it this would take away time from the full JB… so Y compromise the FULL JB for the Half JB???

    JUST WAIT, I DONT KNOW, GO OUT SHOPPING… GET DRUNK… ANYTHING… JUST STOP AKING FOR THE ALMOST JB!

    ITS FUCK ANNOYING!

    IF YOU WANT THE JAILBREAK, FIGURE IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF!!!

  3. labron13 says:

    what is this shit?

  4. Em... says:

    Apart from the very bad voice (nerves or a stutter) its a good explanation of where we are and what needs to be done.

  5. Stray_Mongrel says:

    Totally agreed, tired of the pleading.

    The video at http://s5.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=l0bIvUH3... is a very good explanation of where the Jailbreak is at this point.

    What people are not realizing, is that a simple release of redsn0w is NOT going to give you a jailbreak. You will be required to have a developers software that the Dev-Team has already stated is:
    A) Copyrighted
    B) They will not be giving the developer program to the public.

    The fact of the matter is, what they have right now is a butcher job to hack the iPod. It's a grisly and physically complicated procedure requiring connection to PC and repeated unlocking, and it's a really poor product in comparison to past project releases. I'm sure the Dev-Team wants to release a project of comparable quality to past projects, and I salute them for that.

    What we have now is a half-assed jailbreak-like result.

    Without the Apple developer program to accompany redsn0w, you'll be ass-out on jailbreaking your iPod anyway.

    Stop Sniveling.

  6. Stray_Mongrel says:

    English is not his native language, give him some slack, he knows what he's talking about, would you rather hear him tell you in his native language?

    Well done in my opinion, Bookmarked for future reference.

  7. -wiseman- says:

    Top class… giving you people who obv. want the RedSn0w to be released but know fuck all about what it actually does… shit…

  8. -wiseman- says:

    No.

    Y dont you do it your self… or are you too lazy…

  9. Sundaybetterbfunday says:

    Could you put redsn0w In cydia and install it so it would me permanent on the iPod?

  10. Bazzar says:

    Do not post when is it out just don't go to the blog for a week or 2 then you'll relize that it's out

  11. Honest_Joe says:

    Thank goodness for another Adult on this site talking senseStray_Mongrel I concur with your sentiments.

    It is obvious from the whining going on that a large proportion of the posters are children and spoiled ones at that. I want the full untethered JB and if it takes a bit longer to get there then so be it.

  12. -wiseman- says:

    How would you boot the ipod?

  13. Shad0w lag says:

    Redsn0w is the patch for the jailbreak or otherwise modified memory therefore you can't get on cydia because you need redsn0w patch in order to have the jailbroken apps……:D

  14. Bazzar says:

    Just wait patience is the key

  15. callmebam says:

    I had a thought. and you more knowledgeble people, feel free to shoot this down as soon as you read it, but could you do the tethered jailbreak (once it's completely legal, that is) and then download (it would need to be developed by the IDT) the “redsn0w” patch as an app? Since it'd be a jailbreak-running app, couldn't they program it to run at every boot-up to patch the signature checks, and therefore creating an untethered jailbreak?

  16. Frisco_Native says:

    I just figure out on how to get free apps on Ipod touch 2g! This requires and ipodtouch 1st gen, iphone 1st gen or 3g JAILBROKEN!! Now every one knows how to get craked apps. well once you get them you connect to iTunes then sync the apps. Once you already have them in iTunes then connect you ipt2g and go to applications then check mark it then sync it. Then you have free apps on your ipt2g.

  17. MartinBruce says:

    yeah i think i understand now, they could release redsn0w and all the readme of how to do it all and all the programs to make it and everything, but it would take awhile to get all of that ready, time which they could be working on the full jailbreak

  18. Mikey says:

    listen to wise man… hes wise…man

    DONT ASK FOR THE TETHERED JB IF YOU WILL LATER WANT THE FULL JB

  19. MartinBruce says:

    aye iv kinda disproved my point lol, i think one team should release tethered though and let the other one concentrate on the full jailbreak, at least touch users will have something to do instead of mindlessly waiting for the full one to come out

  20. MartinBruce says:

    thank you, finally people are understanding

  21. Karatedud says:

    I'm a kid but I want the full JB

  22. Shad0w lag says:

    Guys I have told you over again LOL not really anyway it will come out sooner or later just be patient because when it comes out it will be a miracle okkkkk….

  23. Stray_Mongrel says:

    You didn't watch the video, did you?

  24. callmebam says:

    I did?

  25. Stray_Mongrel says:

    Really, at this point, they are really back to the same point we were at when Chronic Dev was looking for an initial exploit, with no idea of the amount of time it would take to “strike gold”, as it was well analogized in the google code notes.

    Now they are scratching their heads, and trying a list of techniques to try and get redsn0w to load during the boot sequence, and while they may have ideas, they have not found a needed “second exploit” to make this jailbreak real.

    Even offering a time schedule of when they are going to find a hidden exploit is entirely preposterous.

    So please don't ask.

  26. MartinBruce says:

    read that and please….and please TAKE IT IN AND STOP ASKING!

  27. Slbenficaboy says:

    ummmmmmmmm NO wont work!

  28. Slbenficaboy says:

    i was thinking this also but then i tough well if the program was in an app and the itouch turned off no apps would run so it owuldnt beable to apply the patch

  29. 46r46 says:

    Hey chronic!could you please tell what programming languages I've gotta learn inorder to to what you're doing?(finding exploits & stuffs like that….)

  30. FrenchyNoob says:

    So near ! Exellent Job Chronic-dev =)

  31. Tokkul says:

    Would you donate? My guess is no. There is no benefit of a donate page.

  32. xxjailbreakmexx says:

    guys!

    “I suspect (just a personal opinion, not based on any inside knowledge whatsoever) that somebody somewhere is putting together a small serial dongle that is a sort of compromise between a tethered and untethered redsn0w (it's been talked about on here before too). It would be a small device that you'd carry with you and connect to your ipt2g's dock connector if you need to reboot. Better than needing to carry a laptop with you, but less elegant than a low-level bootrom exploit (which probably doesn't matter to most people).”

    -MuscleNerd

  33. Ipodtouch2g says:

    Yo wat if smeone made like smething that hooks up to the usb port and allows u to go on the internet anywhere

  34. Ipodtouch2g says:

    Yo wat if smeone made like smething that hooks up to the usb port and allows u to go on the internet anywhere

  35. Charlie jennings says:

    Excellent work guys, keep it up :)

  36. Charlie jennings says:

    Cant the boot rom chip be flashed with the iPod itself??
    For example:
    Load the JB Fw
    Run the redsnow patch
    Boot iPod
    Install patch app
    Flash bootrom chip??

    Stop me if I'm wrong…

  37. Ipodhaxxor says:

    Seems plausible but will prob get shot down somehow…ihonestly wouldn't mind doing a dongle anyway…

  38. xxjailbreakmexx says:

    happy funday everyone :)

  39. Mikey says:

    hah you too muscle

  40. Mikey says:

    happy funday! :D

  41. n4mn4m says:

    Yeey the blog is working again :)

  42. Jeff says:

    Yeah for like 2 day I couldent load this of on my iPod

  43. elliott says:

    is it released ?

  44. IPHONE DEV IS BEST says:

    redsn0w lite is ready!!!
    :D

    But now I had to buy a Mac for using redsn0w ;)

  45. Christian says:

    WHEN DO U THINK REDSNOW WILL BE OUT?

  46. Weezy4367 says:

    hey if anyone needs help with their ipod touch 2g jailbreak on mac or windows email me Mr.swagerjacker@yahoo.com

  47. wqyioqweyotrqiu says:

    you fucking deuchbags you suck fuckin dirty dicks just tell us how you bitch ass nerd cuntscicles fuck youu faggotts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  48. PayPal says:

    Greetings Chronic Dev Team community!

    It's Max Levchin, one of the founders and CEO's of paypal.com reminding you that you can donate money to the Chronic Dev Team via paypal by sending money to the following address:

    ChronicDevFund@yahoo.com

    This money collected in the fund will be wired to directly to Chronic and his Dev team to thank them for all the work they've done. As an iPod Touch 2nd generation owner myself, I can't wait for the fabled untethered jailbreak or at least a reliable dongle device.

    Max Levchin
    Found, CEO of PayPal.com

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